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John Livesey Topham

John Livesey Topham

Male 1830 - 1848  (17 years)

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  • Name John Livesey Topham 
    Birth 28 Sep 1830  Mill Hill, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christening 13 Jun 1831  Saint Peter, Leeds, York, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Death Q4 1848  Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Person ID I7666  Watson Clan Tree
    Last Modified 26 May 2012 

    Father Ancestors Thomas S. Topham,   b. 17 Nov 1795, Ousebridge, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 16 Nov 1839, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 43 years) 
    Mother Ancestors Eliza Livesey,   b. 17 Jul 1796, Briggate, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 31 Jul 1840, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 44 years) 
    Marriage 16 Jul 1815  Saint Peter, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    _UID D4BF21D1691B724DABE3D1257837C8AD7008 
    Notes 
    • There are two significant anomalies to note in the children listed.

      First: James and Anne were christened in Belper, Derbyshire, England.

      Second: Thomas, Hannah, and John all have the same christening date.

      I have a scenario that makes some sense of this, though it may be creative fiction until it is proven. Note the consistent two years between births. With the exception of one three year gap, they had a child every two years like clockwork. The two children from Belper fit right into this scenario.

      It also make sense that if they moved to Belper and then back to Leeds, when they went to christen John, the parish would confirm their records of the family. Were they not able to find Hannah and Thomas Jr's records, it would make sense they would re-christen them at the same time as John was christened. This is further supported by the fact that Thomas Jr actually has two christening dates, one that is the same as John's, and another in 1821.

      For this scenario to work, it would really make more sense for James and Anne to be a part this Thomas and Eliza Toppham's family.

      This scenario could easily be disproved, but it is my current working theory.

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    Family ID F110  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Documents
    Hannah Topham 1825-1885 - Birth Record
    Hannah Topham 1825-1885 - Birth Record

  • Sources 
    1. [S238] Certificate of Baptism and Confirmation (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S306] England, Births and Christenings (Reliability: 3).
      Name John Livisey Topham
      Gender Male
      Baptism/Christening Date 13 Jun 1831
      Baptism/Christening Place SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
      Birth Date
      Birthplace
      Death Date
      Name Note
      Race
      Father's Name Thomas Topham
      Father's Birthplace
      Father's Age
      Mother's Name Eliza
      Mother's Birthplace
      Mother's Age
      Indexing Project (Batch) Number C07193-4
      System Origin England-ODM
      Source Film Number 918389
      Reference Number

    3. [S253] England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index (Reliability: 3).
      Name: John Livesey Topham
      Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1848
      Registration district: Leeds
      Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
      Volume: 23
      Page: 293 (click to see others on page)

    4. [S195] West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Reliability: 3).
      Name: Thomas Topham
      Marriage or Bann Date: 16 Jul 1815
      Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
      Spouse's Name: Eliza Livesey