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Eliza Livesey

Eliza Livesey

Female 1796 - 1840  (44 years)

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  • Name Eliza Livesey  [1
    • The indexing on Eliza's last name is inconsistent, and leaves much to be desired. They do all seem to be variants on Livesey, wich is Hannah's second son Marlow Livesy Cummings' middle name. This also tends to corroborate that this is in fact Hannah and Eliza Maria's parents. That and the fact they have both an Eliza Maria and a Hannah at the appropriate times.
    Born 17 Jul 1796  Briggate, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Christened 9 Sep 1796  Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Female 
    _UID 5FDB6487F504E04FA03E9185A536EEDEE8E8 
    Died 31 Jul 1840  Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Buried 4 Aug 1840  Saint John the Evangelist, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Person ID I227  Watson Clan Tree
    Last Modified 30 Sep 2018 

    Father Ancestors Christopher Livesey,   b. 7 May 1757, St Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 5 Dec 1815, St Mary, Beeston, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 58 years) 
    Mother Ancestors Elisabeth Rhodes,   b. 19 Jun 1751, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 15 Nov 1778  Saint Peter, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 6
    Family ID F5775  Group Sheet

    Family Ancestors Thomas S. Topham,   b. 17 Nov 1795, Ousebridge, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Nov 1839, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 43 years)  [7
    Married 16 Jul 1815  Saint Peter, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    _UID D4BF21D1691B724DABE3D1257837C8AD7008 
    Notes 
    • There are two significant anomalies to note in the children listed.

      First: James and Anne were christened in Belper, Derbyshire, England.

      Second: Thomas, Hannah, and John all have the same christening date.

      I have a scenario that makes some sense of this, though it may be creative fiction until it is proven. Note the consistent two years between births. With the exception of one three year gap, they had a child every two years like clockwork. The two children from Belper fit right into this scenario.

      It also make sense that if they moved to Belper and then back to Leeds, when they went to christen John, the parish would confirm their records of the family. Were they not able to find Hannah and Thomas Jr's records, it would make sense they would re-christen them at the same time as John was christened. This is further supported by the fact that Thomas Jr actually has two christening dates, one that is the same as John's, and another in 1821.

      For this scenario to work, it would really make more sense for James and Anne to be a part this Thomas and Eliza Toppham's family.

      This scenario could easily be disproved, but it is my current working theory.

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    Children 
    Married: 1x1. Mary Topham,   c. 22 Nov 1816, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    +2. Eliza Maria Topham,   b. 2 May 1818, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Feb 1876, Jefferson City, Jefferson Township, Cole, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 57 years)
     3. Thomas Topham,   c. 2 Jan 1821, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Hariet Topham,   c. 1 Jan 1823, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    +5. Hannah Topham,   b. 6 Jan 1825, Mill Hill, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Aug 1885, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years)
     6. Thomas Topham,   b. 29 Nov 1827, Mill Hill, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. John Livesey Topham,   b. 28 Sep 1830, Mill Hill, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Q4 1848, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 17 years)
    Last Modified 21 Jun 2014 
    Family ID F110  Group Sheet

  • Documents
    Hannah Topham 1825-1885 - Birth Record
    Hannah Topham 1825-1885 - Birth Record
    Thomas Topham & Eliza Livesey Marriage Record
    Thomas Topham & Eliza Livesey Marriage Record
    Eliza Livesey 1796-Unknown - Birth Record
    Eliza Livesey 1796-Unknown - Birth Record
    Eliza Livesey 1796-1840 - Burial Record
    Eliza Livesey 1796-1840 - Burial Record
    Eliza Maria Topham (1818-1876) Birth Record
    Eliza Maria Topham (1818-1876) Birth Record
    Eliza Maria Topham

    in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
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    Name: Eliza Maria Topham
    Age: 0
    Record Type: Baptism
    Birth Date: 2 May 1818
    Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1818
    Baptism Place: Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
    Parish as it Appears: Leeds, St Peter
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    Father: Thomas Topham
    Mother: Eliza Topham
    Source Citation

    West Yorkshire Archive Service; Wakefield, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; New Reference Number: RDP68/3A/3
    Source Information

    Ancestry.com. West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

    Original data: Yorkshire Parish Records. Leeds, England: West Yorkshire Archive Service.
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    This database contains images of Church of England baptism records in registers from parishes in the West Yorkshire area of England. Learn more...

  • Sources 
    1. [S195] West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Reliability: 3).
      Name: Thomas Topham
      Marriage or Bann Date: 16 Jul 1815
      Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
      Spouse's Name: Eliza Livesey

    2. [S195] West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Reliability: 3).
      Name: Eliza Livesey
      Birth Date: 17 Jul
      [abt 1796]
      Baptism Date: 9 Sep 1796
      Parish: Leeds, St Peter (Leeds Parish Church)
      Father's name: Christopher Livesey

    3. [S39] Journal of Jonathan Grimshaw, Jonathan Grimshaw, (http://www.grimshaworigin.org/WebPages/JonaEliza.htm) (Reliability: 3).
      Eliza Topham, Wife of Thomas, died 31 July 1840, aged 44

    4. [S195] West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Reliability: 3).
      Name: Eliza Topham
      Birth Year: abt 1796
      Parish: Leeds, St John The Evangelist
      Burial Date: 4 Aug 1840
      Burial Age: 44

    5. [S195] West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials (Reliability: 3).
      Name: Christopher Livesey
      Marriage Date: 15 Nov 1778
      Parish: Leeds, St Peter (Leeds Parish Church)
      Spouse's Name: Elisabeth Rhodes

    6. [S304] England, Marriages (Reliability: 3).
      Groom's Name: Christopher Livesey
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      Bride's Name: Elisabeth Rhodes
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      Marriage Date: 15 Nov 1778
      Marriage Place: Saint Peter,Leeds,York,England
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      Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00962-4
      System Origin: England-ODM
      Source Film Number: 918375
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    7. [S306] England, Births and Christenings (Reliability: 3).
      Name Eliza Maria Topham
      Gender Female
      Baptism/Christening Date 13 Aug 1818
      Baptism/Christening Place SAINT PETER,LEEDS,YORK,ENGLAND
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      Father's Name Thomas Topham
      Father's Birthplace
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      Mother's Name Eliza
      Mother's Birthplace
      Mother's Age
      Indexing Project (Batch) Number C07193-1
      System Origin England-ODM
      Source Film Number 918380
      Reference Number